Principi di Scienza Nuova d'intorno alla Comune Natura

Principi di Scienza Nuova d'intorno alla Comune Natura



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  1. Andrew Andrew says:

    I can't imagine what Vico was thinking when he wrote his observations I've never read anything that contains so many seeds of future thought Marx Darwin Chomsky Freud Durkheim Nietzsche Foucault Adorno Rorty You're all here No wonder everyone from James Joyce to Edward Said has cited Vico as an overriding influence OK so he's an ultra Catholic who believes in giants and refers to obscure Romans I'm OK with that He lived in different times Regardless I feel like I'm gaining insight into one of the most radically open minds in history and he's able to examine the entire span of knowledge in his time And the thing is Vico would be the first one to admit his own historical contingency


  2. Jeremy Jeremy says:

    Amazing Over 250 years ago Vico laid the ground work for a huge amount of modern socialcritical thought His analysis of human culture based on language and physical geography his refusal to glorify the past by drawing attention to the ridiculous ways we try project our own mental states onto distant history his identification and analysis of the origins and evolution of human institutions his analysis of conflict arising from the desparities between ultra wealthy citizens and common plebiansits all just so shockingly ahead of its time Reading through it you can actually see the jumping off points for thinkers and writers like Marx Foucault Sassure the Frankfurt school in general Freud Jung Joyce Benjamin even Derrida and Darwin at times Some of the Christian stuff is a bit off putting but that's kind of missing the trees for the forest It's sort of got two prongs to it he creates a methodology and then shows how it works by using it to analyse human history It's a genuine shame that this has been so neglected An aweful lot of inuiry and theory knowingly or otherwise has been spun out of ideas that Vico first laid down here I can't recommend this too highly


  3. aPriL does feral sometimes aPriL does feral sometimes says:

    Despite that this historic book ‘New Science’ by Giambattista Vico written around 1744 is one which broke new ground in studying ancient myths law and history I cannot get past his constant boosting of Christianity as being so clearly superior to all other religions especially since his belief is that the Christian God is real while these other gods are barbaric Not gentle readerHow Vico can ignore the similarities of bibical myths along with the other admirable insights he gained through his academic studies of ancient texts from China the Far and Near East and the Mediterranean Athens Rome Egypt is beyond me Vico’s book publicized and synthesized although he wasn’t the first to come up with the thought the idea a people's culture is linked to their myths He brought out into the light of day the idea Culture evolves If we cannot understand the historical timeline and the cultural framework of a myth it is because the culture is very different from the current reader's time We need to try to understand the culture of a civilization to understand the myth Vico's idea of using architectural observation of ancient texts and cultural artifacts taking these at their face value and applying it to conclusions of academic studies was contrary to the philosophical thought at the time Thinkers like the philosopher Descartes was positing only Reason was a valid way to know things about things that culture was eternal and unchanging because people were permanently unchanging Vico states there is no ‘universal’ culture because people were radically different in thought and beliefs in the past as demonstrated by archeological discoveries and texts He thought civilizations went through cycles of evolutionGentle reader I am only a retired secretary not a philosopher historian or scientist If I have got this wrong comment below and educate meThere is an extensive Index and Glossary section


  4. Czarny Pies Czarny Pies says:

    Giambattista Vico's New Science which is in fact a loopy theory of the history of literature has proved to be a great flintstone Three times every century since it was published some young thinker scratches his nose against it sparks fly off and a new theory derived from it emergesIn the New Science Vico proposes that human history advances in a recurring cycle of three phases the divine the heroic and the human A special political system and language are proper to each age The divine age is characterized by metaphohe the heroic age by metonymy and the human age by ironyMichelet and Northrop Frye are amongst the many writers who have built on Vico's theory I advise all young graduate students to read this book carefully You may be able build a model from it that you will be able to lever into a career


  5. Dan Dan says:

    I first read Giambattista Vico while studying James Joyce’s Finnegans Wake which employs Vichian concepts in its organization Inasmuch as the history of the Jewish peoples is recorded in the Bible in The New Science Vico reconstructs the history of the non Jewish peoples the Gentiles His unconventional approach to this history involves the analysis of Classical myths etymology and figures of speech He is thought to be one of the first “modern” historians


  6. Connor Connor says:

    According to Goodreads biography Giovanni Battista Giambattista Vico or Vigo was an Italian political philosopher rhetorician historian and jurist A critic of modern rationalism and apologist of classical antiuity Vico's magnum opus is titled PrinciplesOrigins of reNewed Science about the Common Nature of Nations I am still currently reading this magistral universal history but my first impressions of this work is that it is very much a history of literature The heroic age is described in the introduction by Vico to his work and his uotations of Homer and Virgil to suffice as a history of the bronze age are frustrating to any historian But faulted as it is it was a uniue work and very much of its time Universal history was a very new concept in the West even though in the Near East the first universal history had been sitting in libraries for over 400 years and this was maybe the very first proper western attempt at a universal history In this book Vico collects information from the ancients about the ancient civilisations of the past the Babylonians assyrians greeks Chaldeans romans Egyptians etc and then attempts to assess this information and look deeper into the reasons why these long dead civilisations flourished and what conditions sufficed to make them do so etc Like I said before I am still reading this and I will update my review once finished But even from the first 30 pages a general gist of this can be attained It is a uniue historical achievement by a great thinker of the 17th century who was often ignored in his lifetime and re discovered din the late 18th century He left an influence on Ranke Marx Joyce etc and is regarded as one of the great early enlightenment figures He was a deeply catholic man and viewed paganism with deep resentment but went onto to influence many atheists of the next few centuries I shall end this review with a uote by Vico that I am particularly fond of“Peoples like so many beasts have fallen into the custom of each man thinking only of his own private interests and have reached the extreme of delicacy or better of pride in which like wild animals they bristle and lash out at the slightest displeasure Thus no matter how great the throng and press of their bodies they live like wild beasts in a deep solitude of spirit and will scarcely any two being able to agree since each follows his own pleasure and caprice”


  7. Mary Mary says:

    Three ages mythic heroic and human matched with their own concepts of knowledge production including early the poetic The master tropes that Vico identifies match up with K Burke's master tropes which are in both rhetoricians' arguments a kind of reasoning cf 404 409 Because anceint minds couldn't conceive of abstracts they invented poetic forms certain models or ideal portraits like Hermes the civil sage 209 and 767 8 The first fables Vico says were history 817Claims that religion marriage burying of the dead are universal institutions In this way I'd argue that Vico is actually a psychological archetypist who sees subconscious truths expressed in the myths of the early poetic ages Creating these corporeal truth is marvelous sublimity 376Other thoughtsTopics make minds inventive as criticism makes them exact 498Government is extension of family responsibilities and servitude to protectorVico also has some kind of capitalist theory out of the passions of men each bent on his private advantage it has made civil institutions133 this public virtue was nothing but a good use which providence made of such grievous ugly and cruel private vices 38Poetry reuires the natural gift 822also here describes Konrad III's seige of weinsburg one of my favorite stories


  8. 8314 8314 says:

    Um holy shtHow on earth did a person conceive the possibility of a political genealogy of Jungian archetypes?I do hope someone could do a serious errataarchaeology in linguistics on the points Vico raised It should be seriously fun


  9. Wyatt Kaldenberg Wyatt Kaldenberg says:

    Vico like most great writers is hard to read I don't agree with all of his ideas He is very Christian and hostile to our faith and polytheistic people However many of his ideas are very profound All Odinists should read Vico along with Plato's Republic Edward Gibbon's The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and Oswald Spengler's The Decline of the West in order to understand why the West is in the mess it is today Vico gave a very good defense of feudalism


  10. Andrew Andrew says:

    This will seriously bore you unless you are interested in Joyce linguistics philology scholarly studies I read it during my Joyce phase


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Principi di Scienza Nuova d'intorno alla Comune Natura delle Nazioni ❮PDF / Epub❯ ☆ Principi di Scienza Nuova d'intorno alla Comune Natura delle Nazioni ✪ Author Giambattista Vico – Centrumpowypadkowe.co.uk Durante la vida de Vico nadie comprendió totalmente su originalidad ni cien años después de su muerte ni aun auellos pocos ue realmente lo leyeron ni sus fervientes admiradores napolitanos y veneci Durante la vida de Vico nadie Scienza Nuova PDF Å comprendió totalmente su originalidad ni cien años después de su muerte ni aun auellos pocos ue realmente lo leyeron ni sus fervientes admiradores napolitanos y venecianos en el siglo XVIII ni los hombres famosos ue lo comentaron después tan superficialmente Ninguno antes de Michelet parece haber tenido la idea de ue Vico había abierto una ventana sobre un nuevo campo de pensamientoGiambattista Vico nació en Nápoles en y vivió allí o en sus alrededores hasta su muerte en A través de su larga Principi di PDF/EPUB ² vida fue poco conocido siendo un verdadero ejemplar del pensador solitario Fue educado por sacerdotes trabajó algunos años como tutor privado llegó a ser profesor menor de retórica en la Universidad de Nápoles y después de muchos años fue premiado en los últimos años de su vida al ser nombrado funcionario historiógrafo del virrey austriaco de NápolesPara Vico los hombres se hacen diferentes preguntas acerca del universo y sus respuestas están conformadas en consecuencia tales preguntas y los símbolos o actos ue las expresan se alteran o se convierten en obsoletas en di Scienza Nuova Epub à el curso del desarrollo cultural; para comprender las respuestas se deben entender las preguntas ue preocupan a una época o cultura; no son constantes ni necesariamente más profundas porue se parezcan a las nuestras más ue otras ue di Scienza Nuova d'intorno alla PDF/EPUB or nos son menos familiares La relatividad de Vico fue más allá de la de Montesuieu Si su opinión fue correcta fue subversiva ante la noción de verdades absolutas y de una sociedad perfecta fundada en ellas no solamente en la práctica sino en principioIsaiah Berlin.